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		<title>Comment on what are the easterly winds that traditionally supplied wind power to sailing ships called? by Richard C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are the trade winds.......which was a term used for favorable winds, but not only easterly........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are the trade winds&#8230;&#8230;.which was a term used for favorable winds, but not only easterly&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on what are the easterly winds that traditionally supplied wind power to sailing ships called? by Oliver Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Primarily the trade winds,  but for those very few (but important) ships navigating in polar waters they would be the polar easterlies.

Westerlies???  ....   you surely can&#039;t be serious;   you have just stated yourself that you are asking about easterlies,  and westerlies are the exact opposite.

The Hadley cell is a circulating system which is driven by upwards movement by convection in the tropics (as a result of heating the air),  and downwards motion in about latitudes 30 degrees both north and south (the &quot;Horse Latitudes&quot; in the case of the northern hemisphere) as the air cools.   Therefore the high altitude air between the two moves towards the poles,  and as a result of the Coriolis Effect it is deflected to the right in the northern hemisphere (and to the left in the southern hemisphere),  i.e. eastwards in both cases,  thus creating the Jetstream.   At sea level the air returns towards the Equator,  and again is deflected to the right in the northern hemisphere (and to the left in the southern),  thus giving rise to the Trade Winds.

From the phrasing of the question this looks like a piece of school homework;  please next time do your own homework rather than asking the online community to do it for you!!    An internet search on &quot;Hadley cell&quot; should provide all this information,  along with information about the polar cell and the Ferris cell,  which give rise respectively to the polar easterlies and the prevailing westerlies.   

Note that the westerlies are very far from constant,  merely prevailing,  because the Ferris cell is a secondary one,  driven only by the friction created by the upward motion of the polar cell in latitudes somewhere around 60 degrees (both north and south) and the downward motion of the Hadley cell in the Horse Latitudes.   The air in the Ferris cell moves in the opposite direction from what convection would suggest if you were to consider this cell in isolation.  The air moves as it does because we have opposing sets of forces,  but the frictional forces are USUALLY stronger than the convective forces within the Ferris cell.    Thus the Ferris cell is characterised by turbulence and instability,  and this in turn can create undulations in the polar front and these can be the nuclei for the start of depressions,  which are characterised by winds rotating around the centre (anticlockwise in the northern hemisphere),  and usually by associated frontal systems.    Likewise,  localised regions of high pressure can arise,  characterised by winds rotating clockwise in the northern hemisphere,  and normally with no fronts (although I have known occasional exceptions).

So winds in latitudes about 30 degrees to about 60 degrees (either north or south) CAN come from any direction,  and at almost any strength from zero up to storm,  but they are more often southwesterly than any other direction;  this is what &quot;prevailing&quot; means in this context.   

Note also that westerlies in the southern hemisphere are much stronger and more stable than those in the north,  because of the near absence of land at those latitudes in the southern hemisphere.   The &quot;roaring forties&quot; are such because with the solitary exception of Cape Horn they meet no land at all as they blow around that band of latitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Primarily the trade winds,  but for those very few (but important) ships navigating in polar waters they would be the polar easterlies.</p>
<p>Westerlies???  &#8230;.   you surely can&#8217;t be serious;   you have just stated yourself that you are asking about easterlies,  and westerlies are the exact opposite.</p>
<p>The Hadley cell is a circulating system which is driven by upwards movement by convection in the tropics (as a result of heating the air),  and downwards motion in about latitudes 30 degrees both north and south (the &quot;Horse Latitudes&quot; in the case of the northern hemisphere) as the air cools.   Therefore the high altitude air between the two moves towards the poles,  and as a result of the Coriolis Effect it is deflected to the right in the northern hemisphere (and to the left in the southern hemisphere),  i.e. eastwards in both cases,  thus creating the Jetstream.   At sea level the air returns towards the Equator,  and again is deflected to the right in the northern hemisphere (and to the left in the southern),  thus giving rise to the Trade Winds.</p>
<p>From the phrasing of the question this looks like a piece of school homework;  please next time do your own homework rather than asking the online community to do it for you!!    An internet search on &quot;Hadley cell&quot; should provide all this information,  along with information about the polar cell and the Ferris cell,  which give rise respectively to the polar easterlies and the prevailing westerlies.   </p>
<p>Note that the westerlies are very far from constant,  merely prevailing,  because the Ferris cell is a secondary one,  driven only by the friction created by the upward motion of the polar cell in latitudes somewhere around 60 degrees (both north and south) and the downward motion of the Hadley cell in the Horse Latitudes.   The air in the Ferris cell moves in the opposite direction from what convection would suggest if you were to consider this cell in isolation.  The air moves as it does because we have opposing sets of forces,  but the frictional forces are USUALLY stronger than the convective forces within the Ferris cell.    Thus the Ferris cell is characterised by turbulence and instability,  and this in turn can create undulations in the polar front and these can be the nuclei for the start of depressions,  which are characterised by winds rotating around the centre (anticlockwise in the northern hemisphere),  and usually by associated frontal systems.    Likewise,  localised regions of high pressure can arise,  characterised by winds rotating clockwise in the northern hemisphere,  and normally with no fronts (although I have known occasional exceptions).</p>
<p>So winds in latitudes about 30 degrees to about 60 degrees (either north or south) CAN come from any direction,  and at almost any strength from zero up to storm,  but they are more often southwesterly than any other direction;  this is what &quot;prevailing&quot; means in this context.   </p>
<p>Note also that westerlies in the southern hemisphere are much stronger and more stable than those in the north,  because of the near absence of land at those latitudes in the southern hemisphere.   The &quot;roaring forties&quot; are such because with the solitary exception of Cape Horn they meet no land at all as they blow around that band of latitude.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what are the easterly winds that traditionally supplied wind power to sailing ships called? by clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>clark</dc:creator>
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		<description>Trade winds.....</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is wind power profitable? by MTRstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTRstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming you paid them $0.10 for their power, then yes they would be. But the wholesale rate for electricity is generally lower; maybe half that.


For example, the Roscoe wind farm cost about $1.25m/MW of capacity. Assuming wind resources are UK average, the capacity factor will be bout 30% (UK average is 28-31% depending on year). Therefore each MW will generate about 2.62 million kWh/year, or $262k/yr.

The Danish Wind Energy Association claims that maintenance costs are under 3% of initial outlay, so you should expect that over a 25 year life, excluding decommissioning costs and assuming $0.10/kWh, a wind turbine has a yield of about 8% annual return, assuming that you put aside the maintenance money at the beginning, an annual rate of interest of 3% and a rate of electricity inflation of 3%.

Assuming $0.05/kWh, then the rate of return is just under 5% over the 25yrs.



In general, coal is cheaper than wind without subsidy; but we can&#039;t really tell how much. In the US, the subsidy is equivalent to about 1.2 cents/kWh, and that has led to an explosion of wind power. Since I&#039;m not aware of any countries that have large wind power without some kind of encouragement, I can&#039;t think of any empirical data to show just how competitive wind is.

That said, there are very good reasons for either taxing coal or subsidising wind. Coal adds social costs in terms of billions of dollars in healthcare and agricultural damage from air pollution plus the social costs of climate change. Considering these costs are typically estimated at between 1-10 cents per kWh, the US subsidy looks justified to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming you paid them $0.10 for their power, then yes they would be. But the wholesale rate for electricity is generally lower; maybe half that.</p>
<p>For example, the Roscoe wind farm cost about $1.25m/MW of capacity. Assuming wind resources are UK average, the capacity factor will be bout 30% (UK average is 28-31% depending on year). Therefore each MW will generate about 2.62 million kWh/year, or $262k/yr.</p>
<p>The Danish Wind Energy Association claims that maintenance costs are under 3% of initial outlay, so you should expect that over a 25 year life, excluding decommissioning costs and assuming $0.10/kWh, a wind turbine has a yield of about 8% annual return, assuming that you put aside the maintenance money at the beginning, an annual rate of interest of 3% and a rate of electricity inflation of 3%.</p>
<p>Assuming $0.05/kWh, then the rate of return is just under 5% over the 25yrs.</p>
<p>In general, coal is cheaper than wind without subsidy; but we can&#8217;t really tell how much. In the US, the subsidy is equivalent to about 1.2 cents/kWh, and that has led to an explosion of wind power. Since I&#8217;m not aware of any countries that have large wind power without some kind of encouragement, I can&#8217;t think of any empirical data to show just how competitive wind is.</p>
<p>That said, there are very good reasons for either taxing coal or subsidising wind. Coal adds social costs in terms of billions of dollars in healthcare and agricultural damage from air pollution plus the social costs of climate change. Considering these costs are typically estimated at between 1-10 cents per kWh, the US subsidy looks justified to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is wind power profitable? by Karley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eventually, the wind turbines would pay for themselves.  However, they are very expensive, about $70,000 to power a home.  Then, they need repairs every three to five years.  However, eventually it will pay for itself, and it is good to be independant when it comes to energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually, the wind turbines would pay for themselves.  However, they are very expensive, about $70,000 to power a home.  Then, they need repairs every three to five years.  However, eventually it will pay for itself, and it is good to be independant when it comes to energy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is wind power profitable? by spk</title>
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		<dc:creator>spk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wind power is profitable, although it takes a while to be.

And... how far is that prarie away from a city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind power is profitable, although it takes a while to be.</p>
<p>And&#8230; how far is that prarie away from a city?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by JetsUnderPats 14-31</title>
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		<dc:creator>JetsUnderPats 14-31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently no, but we could develop that level over the next 40-50 years if we were serious about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently no, but we could develop that level over the next 40-50 years if we were serious about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by regerugged</title>
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		<dc:creator>regerugged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but it would turn us into a primitive society.  We would have to stop using 99% of the energy we use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but it would turn us into a primitive society.  We would have to stop using 99% of the energy we use.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by El Tecolote</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Tecolote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, because liberals like Diane Feinstein are against solar energy to the point of stopping the installation of panels in the Mojave because it &quot;ruins the aesthetics of the desert,&quot; her words, not mine, after supporting solar energy research for so many years... and liberals are against wind power because of the noise and the lubricants for the propellers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, because liberals like Diane Feinstein are against solar energy to the point of stopping the installation of panels in the Mojave because it &quot;ruins the aesthetics of the desert,&quot; her words, not mine, after supporting solar energy research for so many years&#8230; and liberals are against wind power because of the noise and the lubricants for the propellers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by Fat Basturds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Basturds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama doesn&#039;t have a clue what he is talking about.  let the scientist do the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama doesn&#8217;t have a clue what he is talking about.  let the scientist do the job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by Stay thirsty my friends</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stay thirsty my friends</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not right now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by MikeGolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeGolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if you want to sit in a dark and cold house at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if you want to sit in a dark and cold house at night.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by Bob G...The return of</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob G...The return of</dc:creator>
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		<description>Not as it stands today. And the cost would be astronomical, in materials, manpower and space requirements. The pollution created would be phenomenal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not as it stands today. And the cost would be astronomical, in materials, manpower and space requirements. The pollution created would be phenomenal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by tonalc2</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonalc2</dc:creator>
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		<description>Currently, no, because we don&#039;t have the delivery technology or a national grid. 

But that is no reason to not *start* doing it; why should we be reliant on an energy source that has a finite quantity? 

And re Feinstein&#039;s comment, she didn&#039;t say that she was only concerned about the &quot;aesthetics&quot; of the project; her objection was that the land in question had been donated or purchased by conservationists with the intent that they would be protected forever, not used for energy projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, no, because we don&#8217;t have the delivery technology or a national grid. </p>
<p>But that is no reason to not *start* doing it; why should we be reliant on an energy source that has a finite quantity? </p>
<p>And re Feinstein&#8217;s comment, she didn&#8217;t say that she was only concerned about the &quot;aesthetics&quot; of the project; her objection was that the land in question had been donated or purchased by conservationists with the intent that they would be protected forever, not used for energy projects.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can America&#039;s energy supply run without any nuclear power, using only wind and solar energy plants? by Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
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		<description>No.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Does the production of wind power release any pollutants? by Mountainboy19682</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountainboy19682</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wind power requires windmills. There are large amounts of steel and concrete (for foundations) in them and much smaller amounts of other materials like copper for the generator windings.
Mining and processing these materials will produce carbon dioxide and other pollutants.
Erection of the windmills will require heavy equipment, which will burn fossil fuel and produce carbon dioxide.
Removal of the wind farm at the end of its useful life will also require heavy equipment.
However these effects produce less than 1% of the pollutants of a conventional fossil fuel plant.
In operation some people allege noise pollution, but I have stood near operating windmills and this does not seem at all serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind power requires windmills. There are large amounts of steel and concrete (for foundations) in them and much smaller amounts of other materials like copper for the generator windings.<br />
Mining and processing these materials will produce carbon dioxide and other pollutants.<br />
Erection of the windmills will require heavy equipment, which will burn fossil fuel and produce carbon dioxide.<br />
Removal of the wind farm at the end of its useful life will also require heavy equipment.<br />
However these effects produce less than 1% of the pollutants of a conventional fossil fuel plant.<br />
In operation some people allege noise pollution, but I have stood near operating windmills and this does not seem at all serious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the production of wind power release any pollutants? by Billy Butthead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Butthead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The disruption of wind patterns could turn out to be detrimental to the environment in some unknown ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The disruption of wind patterns could turn out to be detrimental to the environment in some unknown ways.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the production of wind power release any pollutants? by Rafael Federer</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/does-the-production-of-wind-power-release-any-pollutants/comment-page-1/#comment-14326</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael Federer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They release noise pollution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They release noise pollution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does the production of wind power release any pollutants? by Robert F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electromagnetic fields   ,   noise pollution    

The manufacturing of the components isn&#039;t so clean

What is the deal with Carbon Dioxide (CO2) when an engine or fire burns it produces Carbon Monoxide(CO) (a poison gas), When anamals breath they produce Carbon Dioxide (an inert gas), The fizz in colas and beer is Carbon Dioxide , you can check the soda fountains at your local conveniance store to see what gas they put into the cokes 
If you want to clean up the CO2 plant some grass ,flowers and trees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electromagnetic fields   ,   noise pollution    </p>
<p>The manufacturing of the components isn&#8217;t so clean</p>
<p>What is the deal with Carbon Dioxide (CO2) when an engine or fire burns it produces Carbon Monoxide(CO) (a poison gas), When anamals breath they produce Carbon Dioxide (an inert gas), The fizz in colas and beer is Carbon Dioxide , you can check the soda fountains at your local conveniance store to see what gas they put into the cokes<br />
If you want to clean up the CO2 plant some grass ,flowers and trees.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What mostly affect the wind power output is wind speed or elevation or propeller blade length? by ELF Earth Life Form - Aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>ELF Earth Life Form - Aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say wind speed.

Elevation often gets more wind speed but adds cost and greater chance of falling over

blade length adds more weight and greater chance of broken parts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say wind speed.</p>
<p>Elevation often gets more wind speed but adds cost and greater chance of falling over</p>
<p>blade length adds more weight and greater chance of broken parts</p>
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		<title>Comment on What mostly affect the wind power output is wind speed or elevation or propeller blade length? by Rudydoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudydoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Hardip, ELF Aubrey is quite correct, wind speed is the mantra of modern day turbine design, the reason for this is two fold.  It is true that as you move a turbine higher you can find more wind, but in most cases the trade off for going 100 feet higher alone does not pay for the added cost and engineering involved in a higher tower.  The main reason towers are the height they are is to avoid the turbulent air that is found within 50 of the top of any obstructions.  If you put a turbine on the top of a gentle slope with no trees or buildings, it would work fine on a 10 foot tower.

But speed is critical in both design and power output.  If you double the speed of a car, you have four times the wind resistance.  The energy in the windflow is a function of the square of the speed, but for a turbine, the change in energy is even greater because as you double the speed of the wind, you also increase the speed of the turbine blade, which further adds to its energy output.  If you want to see this in a mathematical expression, the best place to go is the American Wind Energy Associations website, and look for the page with the wind power formula or equation.  Or you can just google, &quot;Wind Turbine Power Formula,&quot; and the link to the AWEA website will take you straight to that page.  In that formula you will find variables for the air density, which of course decreases with altitude, turbine blade swept area (blade length), and the velocity cubed, (to the power of 3).  So by looking at the formula, we can easily see that doubling the blade swept area will double your output, but doubling the wind speed can result in 9 times the energy.  Increasing elevation does add a small benefit of wind speed, but at an ever increasing cost for each unit of height.  This is why most turbines are only as high as they need to be for the bottom of the blade sweep to avoid the turbulent air near the surface.  I hope this helps explain things for you, I&#039;ll include some sources below.  Take care Hardip, Rudydoo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hardip, ELF Aubrey is quite correct, wind speed is the mantra of modern day turbine design, the reason for this is two fold.  It is true that as you move a turbine higher you can find more wind, but in most cases the trade off for going 100 feet higher alone does not pay for the added cost and engineering involved in a higher tower.  The main reason towers are the height they are is to avoid the turbulent air that is found within 50 of the top of any obstructions.  If you put a turbine on the top of a gentle slope with no trees or buildings, it would work fine on a 10 foot tower.</p>
<p>But speed is critical in both design and power output.  If you double the speed of a car, you have four times the wind resistance.  The energy in the windflow is a function of the square of the speed, but for a turbine, the change in energy is even greater because as you double the speed of the wind, you also increase the speed of the turbine blade, which further adds to its energy output.  If you want to see this in a mathematical expression, the best place to go is the American Wind Energy Associations website, and look for the page with the wind power formula or equation.  Or you can just google, &quot;Wind Turbine Power Formula,&quot; and the link to the AWEA website will take you straight to that page.  In that formula you will find variables for the air density, which of course decreases with altitude, turbine blade swept area (blade length), and the velocity cubed, (to the power of 3).  So by looking at the formula, we can easily see that doubling the blade swept area will double your output, but doubling the wind speed can result in 9 times the energy.  Increasing elevation does add a small benefit of wind speed, but at an ever increasing cost for each unit of height.  This is why most turbines are only as high as they need to be for the bottom of the blade sweep to avoid the turbulent air near the surface.  I hope this helps explain things for you, I&#8217;ll include some sources below.  Take care Hardip, Rudydoo</p>
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		<title>Comment on WindyNation&#8217;s Windtura 500 Wind Turbine: Real World 12 Volt Power Curve by leamyvideo</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/windynations-windtura-500-wind-turbine-real-world-12-volt-power-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-14518</link>
		<dc:creator>leamyvideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 01:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Josh. Great work. Way to be honest about production and a good way to prove it.
I am so looking forward to getting your blades. I hope they come before this weekend. I will be getting alot of wind in the next day for two days. Let the testing begin lol.
Thanks for the post keep&#039;em coming.
Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Josh. Great work. Way to be honest about production and a good way to prove it.<br />
I am so looking forward to getting your blades. I hope they come before this weekend. I will be getting alot of wind in the next day for two days. Let the testing begin lol.<br />
Thanks for the post keep&#8217;em coming.<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind and Solar Power Question? by Lawrence E</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/wind-and-solar-power-question/comment-page-1/#comment-14128</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you judge by Wall St. take the solar companies around the world for an example, their market caps are in the billions of dollars, but they actually make no money.,,,,, yet. They are leveraged to the hilt by banks who provided the R&amp;D money up front. As a result their stock prices sway on a weekly basis from unimaginable riches to instant poverty. That&#039;s what happens when your hand is in the cookie jar.

Wind on the other hand, doesn&#039;t even seem to be as cost effective as hydroelectricity, of which there is an abundance of, just north of the border in Canada. But nobody cares. They&#039;d rather have Google build a giant windmill covering the entire east coast than do business with the Canadians.

Remember after 9/11 the first act of defiance was to rename potatoes &quot;freedom fries&quot;. People actually wonder why the dollar&#039;s value heads south.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you judge by Wall St. take the solar companies around the world for an example, their market caps are in the billions of dollars, but they actually make no money.,,,,, yet. They are leveraged to the hilt by banks who provided the R&amp;D money up front. As a result their stock prices sway on a weekly basis from unimaginable riches to instant poverty. That&#8217;s what happens when your hand is in the cookie jar.</p>
<p>Wind on the other hand, doesn&#8217;t even seem to be as cost effective as hydroelectricity, of which there is an abundance of, just north of the border in Canada. But nobody cares. They&#8217;d rather have Google build a giant windmill covering the entire east coast than do business with the Canadians.</p>
<p>Remember after 9/11 the first act of defiance was to rename potatoes &quot;freedom fries&quot;. People actually wonder why the dollar&#8217;s value heads south.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wind and Solar Power Question? by lunar_rick</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/wind-and-solar-power-question/comment-page-1/#comment-14127</link>
		<dc:creator>lunar_rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like an excellent thesis question.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wind and Solar Power Question? by Ivanovechkin</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/wind-and-solar-power-question/comment-page-1/#comment-14126</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivanovechkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wind power is more effective and expensive than solar depends where</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wind and Solar Power Question? by Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/wind-and-solar-power-question/comment-page-1/#comment-14125</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter how it is done, wind power cannot be as efficient as solar power - in the sense that wind power is already second-hand solar power.
That said, though, the &#039;&#039;efficiency&#039;&#039; of either of these systems is a bit difficult to quantify properly.
Typically, an engineer might look at them in terms of ergs per square meter of land used - - and location and local climate will have a huge impact on these.

Cost - variable... for either.  Both can be achieved with relatively minimal costs (depending upon exactly what effect is desired) - both can be scaled up quite a ways before issues arise.

Technical limits... a bit like costs - it varies - and depends what you are trying to achieve.  If you want to pump water from a well in Oaklahoma or heat water for a swimming pool in Arizona - then wind and solar power respectively will require very little in the way technology beyond what we may already have.  The real limiting factor is energy *storage* and transmission.

Environmental impact - - solar energy likely has the advantage here.  Solar power cells can be installed upon the roof of your house or office building without having any significant effect upon the local environment.  A windmill out on your yard could be a nuisance for your neighbors....

YMMV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter how it is done, wind power cannot be as efficient as solar power &#8211; in the sense that wind power is already second-hand solar power.<br />
That said, though, the &#8221;efficiency&#8221; of either of these systems is a bit difficult to quantify properly.<br />
Typically, an engineer might look at them in terms of ergs per square meter of land used &#8211; - and location and local climate will have a huge impact on these.</p>
<p>Cost &#8211; variable&#8230; for either.  Both can be achieved with relatively minimal costs (depending upon exactly what effect is desired) &#8211; both can be scaled up quite a ways before issues arise.</p>
<p>Technical limits&#8230; a bit like costs &#8211; it varies &#8211; and depends what you are trying to achieve.  If you want to pump water from a well in Oaklahoma or heat water for a swimming pool in Arizona &#8211; then wind and solar power respectively will require very little in the way technology beyond what we may already have.  The real limiting factor is energy *storage* and transmission.</p>
<p>Environmental impact &#8211; - solar energy likely has the advantage here.  Solar power cells can be installed upon the roof of your house or office building without having any significant effect upon the local environment.  A windmill out on your yard could be a nuisance for your neighbors&#8230;.</p>
<p>YMMV</p>
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		<title>Comment on WindyNation&#8217;s Windtura 500 Wind Turbine: Real World 12 Volt Power Curve by Fearlessthinker</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/windynations-windtura-500-wind-turbine-real-world-12-volt-power-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-14519</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearlessthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@WindyNation Sounds good.  In your initial video the battery also started out at 27V but hit 29.2V at 30 MPH, so if this still holds then 25A means 730W delivered.  Good work man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WindyNation Sounds good.  In your initial video the battery also started out at 27V but hit 29.2V at 30 MPH, so if this still holds then 25A means 730W delivered.  Good work man!</p>
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		<title>Comment on WindyNation&#8217;s Windtura 500 Wind Turbine: Real World 12 Volt Power Curve by WindyNation</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/windynations-windtura-500-wind-turbine-real-world-12-volt-power-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-14520</link>
		<dc:creator>WindyNation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fearlessthinker We actually have a better 24 volt video which I will post tonight hopefully. Same format as the video you see here but a 24V bank (actual voltage = 27). Results are much better in the new video because the road is smoother and the wind turbine is no longer a prototype (works much better now). We hit approximately 25 amps or 675 Watts at ~30 mph. 24V banks are the way to go for sure unless your particular system requires 12 volts. 

Thanks for the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fearlessthinker We actually have a better 24 volt video which I will post tonight hopefully. Same format as the video you see here but a 24V bank (actual voltage = 27). Results are much better in the new video because the road is smoother and the wind turbine is no longer a prototype (works much better now). We hit approximately 25 amps or 675 Watts at ~30 mph. 24V banks are the way to go for sure unless your particular system requires 12 volts. </p>
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		<title>Comment on WindyNation&#8217;s Windtura 500 Wind Turbine: Real World 12 Volt Power Curve by Fearlessthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fearlessthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@WindyNation Yes, thanks.  Just looking at your other video (24V) the voltage rose ~10% from 16-32 MPH.  If I assume +12% from 10-32 MPH that is 14.9V at 32 MPH, so about 432w delivered to the battery.  This is actually excellent power but down almost 30% from the 24V battery set-up at the same windspeed.  Other systems drop more than 30% going from a 24V to a 12V setup, so your results are awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@WindyNation Yes, thanks.  Just looking at your other video (24V) the voltage rose ~10% from 16-32 MPH.  If I assume +12% from 10-32 MPH that is 14.9V at 32 MPH, so about 432w delivered to the battery.  This is actually excellent power but down almost 30% from the 24V battery set-up at the same windspeed.  Other systems drop more than 30% going from a 24V to a 12V setup, so your results are awesome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on WindyNation&#8217;s Windtura 500 Wind Turbine: Real World 12 Volt Power Curve by WindyNation</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/windynations-windtura-500-wind-turbine-real-world-12-volt-power-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-14522</link>
		<dc:creator>WindyNation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fearlessthinker  Hi, The battery bank does a good job of clamping the voltage output of the turbine. The voltage is probably between 13.3 and 14.0 volts. As you probably know, the voltage of the turbine&#039;s generator must be higher than the battery bank  for current to flow from the generator to the battery. We are always doing test runs so next time we are out, I will monitor the voltage. I will let you know the results. But, what is important here is amps because amps CHARGE batteries. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fearlessthinker  Hi, The battery bank does a good job of clamping the voltage output of the turbine. The voltage is probably between 13.3 and 14.0 volts. As you probably know, the voltage of the turbine&#8217;s generator must be higher than the battery bank  for current to flow from the generator to the battery. We are always doing test runs so next time we are out, I will monitor the voltage. I will let you know the results. But, what is important here is amps because amps CHARGE batteries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on WindyNation&#8217;s Windtura 500 Wind Turbine: Real World 12 Volt Power Curve by Fearlessthinker</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/windynations-windtura-500-wind-turbine-real-world-12-volt-power-curve/comment-page-1/#comment-14523</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearlessthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 11:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.  Did you capture what the voltage was at 32 MPH or so?</description>
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		<title>Comment on How much power does a WIND FARM produce? by monophoto</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/how-much-power-does-a-wind-farm-produce/comment-page-1/#comment-14066</link>
		<dc:creator>monophoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long is a string?

Seriously, the output of a wind farm depends on three things:

1.  The number of wind turbines.  This could be anything from one unit to hundreds.

2.  The ratings of the turbines. Modern land-based wind turbines are 1.5-2.5MW, while units designed for off-shore application are 3.5 - 5MW each.

3.  How fast the wind is blowing.  On average, a typical wind farm has a capacity factor of around 35% meaning that the overall, long term output is about 35% of the maximum capability based on the number and size of individual units.  The reason that this is so low is that the wind does not always cooperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long is a string?</p>
<p>Seriously, the output of a wind farm depends on three things:</p>
<p>1.  The number of wind turbines.  This could be anything from one unit to hundreds.</p>
<p>2.  The ratings of the turbines. Modern land-based wind turbines are 1.5-2.5MW, while units designed for off-shore application are 3.5 &#8211; 5MW each.</p>
<p>3.  How fast the wind is blowing.  On average, a typical wind farm has a capacity factor of around 35% meaning that the overall, long term output is about 35% of the maximum capability based on the number and size of individual units.  The reason that this is so low is that the wind does not always cooperate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How much power does a WIND FARM produce? by Tommen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.21 gigawatts</description>
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		<title>Comment on How much power does a WIND FARM produce? by Slutty Pineapple</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/how-much-power-does-a-wind-farm-produce/comment-page-1/#comment-14064</link>
		<dc:creator>Slutty Pineapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on a boat.</description>
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		<title>Comment on What are the PROS and cons of wind power? by Bush Philosopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush Philosopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look up the link below.  I wrote it about Australia, but it applies pretty much anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look up the link below.  I wrote it about Australia, but it applies pretty much anywhere.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are the PROS and cons of wind power? by Bad Moon Rising</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Moon Rising</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pro: 
1. It does not add to CO2 emissions ina a substantial way.
2. It will be needed in full force by 2040 or so when Peak Energy hits when conventional sources are not capable of meeeting demand.

Sorry but there are very few &quot;pros&quot; that anyone but diehard environmentalists can conceive of. These might include nonsense such as &quot;green economy&quot; and well paying jobs and technology advancement, but they are all false claims!

Cons: 
1. It is only &quot;free&quot; initially when on public lands or oceans. When it moves into the agricultural areas it will cost a fortune due to lease agreements with farmers to place windmills on their land.
2. It will reduce agricultural production and grazing lands substantially. Who wants to grow anything in and around windmills, when you are getting annual surface rentals that exceed the value of agricultural product? Who wants their livestock to be subjected to high frequency noise?
3. It will cost 2 X the cost of conventional electrical transmission lines, which taxpayers pay directly, since the baseload of conventional power must be preserved , while having the ability in peak wind generation periods, to carry the doubled overflow load.
4. It will kill hundreds of thousands of bats and migratory birds.
5. It already costs, despite heavy taxpayer subsidies, 50% more than conventional power and will actually become MORE expensive as mass production occurs.

Wind power is one of the few examples of dis-economy of scale that I have ever seen. Usually mass production creates economy of scale, but not in this case. Ultimately wind power will cost 2-3X more than conventional energy!

To Rudydoo - Your philosopy is great but your concept of economy and societal benefit need work. Please keep your comments to yourself. I do not appreciate them, need them and nor will I really heed them. If you want to answer someone&#039;s question then go ahead, but mind your own business!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pro:<br />
1. It does not add to CO2 emissions ina a substantial way.<br />
2. It will be needed in full force by 2040 or so when Peak Energy hits when conventional sources are not capable of meeeting demand.</p>
<p>Sorry but there are very few &quot;pros&quot; that anyone but diehard environmentalists can conceive of. These might include nonsense such as &quot;green economy&quot; and well paying jobs and technology advancement, but they are all false claims!</p>
<p>Cons:<br />
1. It is only &quot;free&quot; initially when on public lands or oceans. When it moves into the agricultural areas it will cost a fortune due to lease agreements with farmers to place windmills on their land.<br />
2. It will reduce agricultural production and grazing lands substantially. Who wants to grow anything in and around windmills, when you are getting annual surface rentals that exceed the value of agricultural product? Who wants their livestock to be subjected to high frequency noise?<br />
3. It will cost 2 X the cost of conventional electrical transmission lines, which taxpayers pay directly, since the baseload of conventional power must be preserved , while having the ability in peak wind generation periods, to carry the doubled overflow load.<br />
4. It will kill hundreds of thousands of bats and migratory birds.<br />
5. It already costs, despite heavy taxpayer subsidies, 50% more than conventional power and will actually become MORE expensive as mass production occurs.</p>
<p>Wind power is one of the few examples of dis-economy of scale that I have ever seen. Usually mass production creates economy of scale, but not in this case. Ultimately wind power will cost 2-3X more than conventional energy!</p>
<p>To Rudydoo &#8211; Your philosopy is great but your concept of economy and societal benefit need work. Please keep your comments to yourself. I do not appreciate them, need them and nor will I really heed them. If you want to answer someone&#8217;s question then go ahead, but mind your own business!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are the PROS and cons of wind power? by DaveSFV</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveSFV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pros, it is free and non polluting.  Cons, it is not constant and does have environmental problems with birds.</description>
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		<title>Comment on What are the PROS and cons of wind power? by Rudydoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudydoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sally, let me see if I can help. If you invest properly in wind power today and take advantage of any grants and tax incentives, even if your electric rates do not go up as they are forecast too, you will get your money back over time, well within the lifetime of the equipment, and sooner if there is a rate increase in the future. There are also enviromental benefits. At one time there was an argument that a wind turbine will never produce as much power as was used to manufacture it. First of all, this is not correct. The, &quot;Embodied Energy,&quot; in a wind turbine is earned back in 3 - 5 years, depending on the type unit, where the raw materials were shipped from, and how it was installed and used in the end. Most wind turbines are warrantied to last much longer. But the argument is not important anyway. We have been living with electricity for over a century now, so it isn&#039;t going away anytime soon. The question is, &quot;What is the best way to produce it?&quot; If you build a turbine, and put it along side a similar sized natural gas fired turbine generator for example, which earns back its embodied energy sooner? The answer is the gas turbine never does, because once you build it, ship it and install it, you now have to feed it natural gas for the rest of its life, so it keeps on digging itself a deeper and deeper embodied energy hole that it can never crawl out of. At least the turbine has a chance to get even environmentally. So manufacturing and using wind power in the end releases less pollution into our environment.

There are also mechanical and political benefits. We all know after the oil embargo of 1973, and the gulf war what it means for our country to rely on foreign oil. Wouldn&#039;t it be nice if we only shipped in 20% of our energy instead of 60% the next time something like that happens? Our home has been powered by the wind and sun for years now, but we still remain connected to the electric grid. Last year alone there were two power failures in our county that lasted about a half day each. In both cases, we were not aware of them because our solar array and wind turbine kept on feeding the house. It&#039;s difficult to put a price tag on something like that. Did you know that there are over 100,000 homes and businesses in the United States alone that use some level of solar or wind power to operate their electrical devices, that&#039;s good news.

Beyond the mechanical, political and environmental benefits however, lies a less obvious benefit, the social benefit. Right now we pump oil out of the ground, and mine for coal. The process of getting those materials to market involves shipping, military escorts and other activities that use up a good portion of that energy as well as putting lives at risk. Jobs in solar and wind power are higher tech than jobs in coal mining, oil drilling and shipping, and there are more of them. Using more wind power would require us to put more people to work, and increase our education base because the work involved requires certain skills. I would personally like to take all those people out of the coal mines, send them to school and put them to work building solar panels and wind turbines. Nobody would have to die again in one of those dark holes in the ground trying to find food for our hungry power plants. They could work on a factory floor where they would not be exposed to coal dust, radon and other toxins and dangers. Most of our solar and wind resources are spread pretty evenly over the middle half of our globe, so everyone has access. This puts people in Bogota on a more equal footing with people in Boca Raton by giving them access to electricity, heat and clean water, and the education to use the resources that provide those things. Oil, coal and natural gas is generally piled up in a few places, such as Russia and the Middle East. This gives those countries and the richer governments that rule them more horse power in bargaining for the other resources of our planet. These are the things that wars are made of.

The one thing that always amazes me when I read forums like this is the amount of misinformation there is about the subject.  Take Bad Moon&#039;s complaints about wind power for example.  Our wind turbine has been powering our home for 10 years now, it has killed fewer birds than our picture window, does not blot the landscape any more than the power lines running to our neighbors home, and the animals and plants that graze and grow beneath it have never noticed it.  Yet Bad Moon is happy to complain about the perceived problems of wind power without ever having owned or operated a turbine.    Well power companies are finding the same thing out today we have known for years, and that&#039;s why they are busy buying and installing turbines.  As a side note, I clicked on Bad Moons Avatar to see what other answers might be posted, but they are private, no surprise.  I encourage you to look at mine, they might give you some more information regarding your subject, and y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sally, let me see if I can help. If you invest properly in wind power today and take advantage of any grants and tax incentives, even if your electric rates do not go up as they are forecast too, you will get your money back over time, well within the lifetime of the equipment, and sooner if there is a rate increase in the future. There are also enviromental benefits. At one time there was an argument that a wind turbine will never produce as much power as was used to manufacture it. First of all, this is not correct. The, &quot;Embodied Energy,&quot; in a wind turbine is earned back in 3 &#8211; 5 years, depending on the type unit, where the raw materials were shipped from, and how it was installed and used in the end. Most wind turbines are warrantied to last much longer. But the argument is not important anyway. We have been living with electricity for over a century now, so it isn&#8217;t going away anytime soon. The question is, &quot;What is the best way to produce it?&quot; If you build a turbine, and put it along side a similar sized natural gas fired turbine generator for example, which earns back its embodied energy sooner? The answer is the gas turbine never does, because once you build it, ship it and install it, you now have to feed it natural gas for the rest of its life, so it keeps on digging itself a deeper and deeper embodied energy hole that it can never crawl out of. At least the turbine has a chance to get even environmentally. So manufacturing and using wind power in the end releases less pollution into our environment.</p>
<p>There are also mechanical and political benefits. We all know after the oil embargo of 1973, and the gulf war what it means for our country to rely on foreign oil. Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we only shipped in 20% of our energy instead of 60% the next time something like that happens? Our home has been powered by the wind and sun for years now, but we still remain connected to the electric grid. Last year alone there were two power failures in our county that lasted about a half day each. In both cases, we were not aware of them because our solar array and wind turbine kept on feeding the house. It&#8217;s difficult to put a price tag on something like that. Did you know that there are over 100,000 homes and businesses in the United States alone that use some level of solar or wind power to operate their electrical devices, that&#8217;s good news.</p>
<p>Beyond the mechanical, political and environmental benefits however, lies a less obvious benefit, the social benefit. Right now we pump oil out of the ground, and mine for coal. The process of getting those materials to market involves shipping, military escorts and other activities that use up a good portion of that energy as well as putting lives at risk. Jobs in solar and wind power are higher tech than jobs in coal mining, oil drilling and shipping, and there are more of them. Using more wind power would require us to put more people to work, and increase our education base because the work involved requires certain skills. I would personally like to take all those people out of the coal mines, send them to school and put them to work building solar panels and wind turbines. Nobody would have to die again in one of those dark holes in the ground trying to find food for our hungry power plants. They could work on a factory floor where they would not be exposed to coal dust, radon and other toxins and dangers. Most of our solar and wind resources are spread pretty evenly over the middle half of our globe, so everyone has access. This puts people in Bogota on a more equal footing with people in Boca Raton by giving them access to electricity, heat and clean water, and the education to use the resources that provide those things. Oil, coal and natural gas is generally piled up in a few places, such as Russia and the Middle East. This gives those countries and the richer governments that rule them more horse power in bargaining for the other resources of our planet. These are the things that wars are made of.</p>
<p>The one thing that always amazes me when I read forums like this is the amount of misinformation there is about the subject.  Take Bad Moon&#8217;s complaints about wind power for example.  Our wind turbine has been powering our home for 10 years now, it has killed fewer birds than our picture window, does not blot the landscape any more than the power lines running to our neighbors home, and the animals and plants that graze and grow beneath it have never noticed it.  Yet Bad Moon is happy to complain about the perceived problems of wind power without ever having owned or operated a turbine.    Well power companies are finding the same thing out today we have known for years, and that&#8217;s why they are busy buying and installing turbines.  As a side note, I clicked on Bad Moons Avatar to see what other answers might be posted, but they are private, no surprise.  I encourage you to look at mine, they might give you some more information regarding your subject, and y</p>
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		<title>Comment on can a wind generator power a central house air conditioners? by tinkertailorcandlestickmaker</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/can-a-wind-generator-power-a-central-house-air-conditioners/comment-page-1/#comment-13925</link>
		<dc:creator>tinkertailorcandlestickmaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not sure how much power your air conditioner will need (different units have differing efficiencies) but for a first approximation we might guess around 5KW. 5KW is on the larger side for residential  wind turbines, but should be possible. Next problem is how much does the wind blow, if it is constant, or at least constant when you need air conditioning, then you don&#039;t need much of a battery bank. But you&#039;d be lucky if that was the case, if you do need to store power for when the wind is low, then the turbine need to be sized to run the AC and charge the batteries, so an even bigger turbine will be needed.
As you can see how much wind you have is a critical factor. A for size of battery bank, just to make the math easy I&#039;ll assume you need to store enough power to run the AC for 10 hours (this is just a wild guess, it might be far different) 5KW x 10 hours is 50,000 watt/hours, on Wikipedia I found a claim that typical energy density for lead acid batteries for this application is between 30 and 40WH ber kilogram, using the average, you&#039;d need around 1400Kg (~3000lb) of batteries.

There are really too many variables too give a good answer here, if you would have no problem spending $20,000 (and wouldn&#039;t totaly freakout over $50K+) then contact a local consultant for more information. If you can&#039;t afford that, it is probably not really worth giong any further since $20K is at the very bottom of the price range for that size of instalation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not sure how much power your air conditioner will need (different units have differing efficiencies) but for a first approximation we might guess around 5KW. 5KW is on the larger side for residential  wind turbines, but should be possible. Next problem is how much does the wind blow, if it is constant, or at least constant when you need air conditioning, then you don&#8217;t need much of a battery bank. But you&#8217;d be lucky if that was the case, if you do need to store power for when the wind is low, then the turbine need to be sized to run the AC and charge the batteries, so an even bigger turbine will be needed.<br />
As you can see how much wind you have is a critical factor. A for size of battery bank, just to make the math easy I&#8217;ll assume you need to store enough power to run the AC for 10 hours (this is just a wild guess, it might be far different) 5KW x 10 hours is 50,000 watt/hours, on Wikipedia I found a claim that typical energy density for lead acid batteries for this application is between 30 and 40WH ber kilogram, using the average, you&#8217;d need around 1400Kg (~3000lb) of batteries.</p>
<p>There are really too many variables too give a good answer here, if you would have no problem spending $20,000 (and wouldn&#8217;t totaly freakout over $50K+) then contact a local consultant for more information. If you can&#8217;t afford that, it is probably not really worth giong any further since $20K is at the very bottom of the price range for that size of instalation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on can a wind generator power a central house air conditioners? by linlyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>linlyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gee, kind&#039;a hard to tell.

is there any wind?
how strong?
all day?
or just part of the day?
what do you consider &quot;a small scale wind generator&quot;?
does your AC use 110 or 220 power?
(it might uses both.  although 5 ton isn&#039;t all that large.)

where are you going to put this?
how are you going to anchor it?
is it allowed where you live?
are you going to have an alternate power source for when there is no wind?
in which case, have you looked at what it takes to hook up to the power grid?

maybe you ought to talk to someone around where you live about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee, kind&#8217;a hard to tell.</p>
<p>is there any wind?<br />
how strong?<br />
all day?<br />
or just part of the day?<br />
what do you consider &quot;a small scale wind generator&quot;?<br />
does your AC use 110 or 220 power?<br />
(it might uses both.  although 5 ton isn&#8217;t all that large.)</p>
<p>where are you going to put this?<br />
how are you going to anchor it?<br />
is it allowed where you live?<br />
are you going to have an alternate power source for when there is no wind?<br />
in which case, have you looked at what it takes to hook up to the power grid?</p>
<p>maybe you ought to talk to someone around where you live about this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What causes your body to Sneeze and how come the wind power from the rapid exhale is bigger then I can do ? by crayonpafc</title>
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		<dc:creator>crayonpafc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to sneeze is your bodys reflex to get rid of anything that could be harmful to you, like coughing and gaging</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to sneeze is your bodys reflex to get rid of anything that could be harmful to you, like coughing and gaging</p>
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		<title>Comment on What were some early uses of wind power? by dacotah7</title>
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		<dc:creator>dacotah7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How early?

Dutch wind mills.  Pumping Water, Grinding Grain into flour.  Sailboats.  Drying food.  Drying clothes.  Making Salt.</description>
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<p>Dutch wind mills.  Pumping Water, Grinding Grain into flour.  Sailboats.  Drying food.  Drying clothes.  Making Salt.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What were some early uses of wind power? by Hammerhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hammerhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To dry things and determine the weather.  

Also they were used to turn large turbines that milled grain or moved machinery (remember those large fan looking things from old movies of European country sides).  

Also used in sail boats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To dry things and determine the weather.  </p>
<p>Also they were used to turn large turbines that milled grain or moved machinery (remember those large fan looking things from old movies of European country sides).  </p>
<p>Also used in sail boats.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What were some early uses of wind power? by robincaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>robincaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milling flour</description>
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		<title>Comment on What were some early uses of wind power? by Elizabeth H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 5,000 years ago, the ancient Egyptians used wind to sail ships on the Nile River. By 200 B.C., simple windmills in China were pumping water, while vertical-axis windmills with woven reed sails were grinding grain in Persia and the Middle East The earliest known windmills were in Persia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 5,000 years ago, the ancient Egyptians used wind to sail ships on the Nile River. By 200 B.C., simple windmills in China were pumping water, while vertical-axis windmills with woven reed sails were grinding grain in Persia and the Middle East The earliest known windmills were in Persia</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by leamyvideo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leamyvideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jeffmolly1 Okay thanks. Never had to change mine sorry for the wrong information I gave.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jeffmolly1 Okay thanks. Never had to change mine sorry for the wrong information I gave.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we use more solar power, wind biomass and hydropower, will this decrease the use of fossil fuels? by Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/if-we-use-more-solar-power-wind-biomass-and-hydropower-will-this-decrease-the-use-of-fossil-fuels/comment-page-1/#comment-13660</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.

The issue is more of a &#039;when&#039; than an &#039;if&#039;. The most promising are wind and biomass. Turbines are a well-established technology, so thats why we are starting to see major increases in wind generation. 

Biomass is pretty promising for replacing our liquid fuel needs, but currently concerns about competition with food and land-use changes are holding it back. However, numerous researchers are investigating non-food based biofuels such as algae or jatropha.

Solar power gets a lot of media attention, but the technology is still too inefficient and expensive for large-scale use.

We are not likely going to see any new major hydropower, like Hoover or Grand Coulee dams, but quite a few people are looking at microhydro systems (i.e. underwater turbines that sit in a river or off the coast but do not block the entire path of water). 

Its only a matter of time before the technology for these alternative energy sources is developed enough to be cheaper and more efficient than current fossil fuel sources. However, its hard to tell when this is going to happen (i.e. next year or in 50 years).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.</p>
<p>The issue is more of a &#8216;when&#8217; than an &#8216;if&#8217;. The most promising are wind and biomass. Turbines are a well-established technology, so thats why we are starting to see major increases in wind generation. </p>
<p>Biomass is pretty promising for replacing our liquid fuel needs, but currently concerns about competition with food and land-use changes are holding it back. However, numerous researchers are investigating non-food based biofuels such as algae or jatropha.</p>
<p>Solar power gets a lot of media attention, but the technology is still too inefficient and expensive for large-scale use.</p>
<p>We are not likely going to see any new major hydropower, like Hoover or Grand Coulee dams, but quite a few people are looking at microhydro systems (i.e. underwater turbines that sit in a river or off the coast but do not block the entire path of water). </p>
<p>Its only a matter of time before the technology for these alternative energy sources is developed enough to be cheaper and more efficient than current fossil fuel sources. However, its hard to tell when this is going to happen (i.e. next year or in 50 years).</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we use more solar power, wind biomass and hydropower, will this decrease the use of fossil fuels? by billrussell42</title>
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		<dc:creator>billrussell42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>possibly, but there is little increase possible with hydropower, and biomass still creates pollution.

Power usage is increasing every year, so the increase in solar and wind and nuclear has to be equal or greater than that increase, or fossil plants have to increase also.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>possibly, but there is little increase possible with hydropower, and biomass still creates pollution.</p>
<p>Power usage is increasing every year, so the increase in solar and wind and nuclear has to be equal or greater than that increase, or fossil plants have to increase also.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we use more solar power, wind biomass and hydropower, will this decrease the use of fossil fuels? by Andrew R</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/if-we-use-more-solar-power-wind-biomass-and-hydropower-will-this-decrease-the-use-of-fossil-fuels/comment-page-1/#comment-13662</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.
First, we&#039;ve already exploited hydropower to its max.  Ever hear of the New Deal and things like the Tennessee Valley Authority?  If they can dam a river without destroying a bunch of cities, they&#039;ve already done it.
Second, solar power and wind aren&#039;t going to be able to provide squat.  Even if they did, we have to use fossil fuels to produce solar cells and wind mills, and wind farms kill bird flocks and solar cells leach toxic chemicals.  For the amount of harm they cause, we certainly don&#039;t get near enough benefit.
Third, biomass is the worst idea ever.  Well, I may agree with garbage conversion stuff, but even then we have the problem of cutting off the carbon cycle.  Waste usually goes back into nature, usually as fertilizer for plants and then eventually winding up as food for the animals that turn it back into waste.  A very simplified version of the carbon cycle, I know.  But when you cut off that process, it is inherently harmful to the biosphere, perhaps not short term but definitely long term.  Of course, growing crops for fuel is what I meant by the worst idea ever.  It doesn&#039;t help that most people on this planet are living in a state of perpetual hunger.  Millions starve to death each year.  And yet we&#039;re growing crops for purposes other than feeding these people.  That is unethical and immoral.  And the process of growing these crops, is entirely destructive on the environment.  If we don&#039;t grow them in places like Europe and the US, then we outsource them to the tropics.  If we grew them hear, the runoff from agricultural waste would add to the already immense deadzones in the oceans.  If we grew them in the tropics, which is what&#039;s happening, those nations make an effort to clear more land for farming, wiping out the rainforests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.<br />
First, we&#8217;ve already exploited hydropower to its max.  Ever hear of the New Deal and things like the Tennessee Valley Authority?  If they can dam a river without destroying a bunch of cities, they&#8217;ve already done it.<br />
Second, solar power and wind aren&#8217;t going to be able to provide squat.  Even if they did, we have to use fossil fuels to produce solar cells and wind mills, and wind farms kill bird flocks and solar cells leach toxic chemicals.  For the amount of harm they cause, we certainly don&#8217;t get near enough benefit.<br />
Third, biomass is the worst idea ever.  Well, I may agree with garbage conversion stuff, but even then we have the problem of cutting off the carbon cycle.  Waste usually goes back into nature, usually as fertilizer for plants and then eventually winding up as food for the animals that turn it back into waste.  A very simplified version of the carbon cycle, I know.  But when you cut off that process, it is inherently harmful to the biosphere, perhaps not short term but definitely long term.  Of course, growing crops for fuel is what I meant by the worst idea ever.  It doesn&#8217;t help that most people on this planet are living in a state of perpetual hunger.  Millions starve to death each year.  And yet we&#8217;re growing crops for purposes other than feeding these people.  That is unethical and immoral.  And the process of growing these crops, is entirely destructive on the environment.  If we don&#8217;t grow them in places like Europe and the US, then we outsource them to the tropics.  If we grew them hear, the runoff from agricultural waste would add to the already immense deadzones in the oceans.  If we grew them in the tropics, which is what&#8217;s happening, those nations make an effort to clear more land for farming, wiping out the rainforests.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we use more solar power, wind biomass and hydropower, will this decrease the use of fossil fuels? by 1doc08</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/if-we-use-more-solar-power-wind-biomass-and-hydropower-will-this-decrease-the-use-of-fossil-fuels/comment-page-1/#comment-13663</link>
		<dc:creator>1doc08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer depends on your frame of reference. If, for example, you assume that the necessary facilities to produce the energy are already in existence, the answer is possibly. If a solar collection station is already in existence, it can generate power without using any fossil fuels to do so. However, that&#039;s not the whole story. The facility itself could use fossil fuel as vehicles or other equipment operating as part of the facility might use fossil fuel. Similar situations exist for wind, biomass, and hydropower. 

If the facility is not in existence, you have to consider all of the energy required to get the facility operational before you can make the call about whether or not it saves fossil fuels. I would expect hydropower installations like dams, etc. to take a tremendous amount of energy to get built before they could ever generate one KW of power without fossil fuels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer depends on your frame of reference. If, for example, you assume that the necessary facilities to produce the energy are already in existence, the answer is possibly. If a solar collection station is already in existence, it can generate power without using any fossil fuels to do so. However, that&#8217;s not the whole story. The facility itself could use fossil fuel as vehicles or other equipment operating as part of the facility might use fossil fuel. Similar situations exist for wind, biomass, and hydropower. </p>
<p>If the facility is not in existence, you have to consider all of the energy required to get the facility operational before you can make the call about whether or not it saves fossil fuels. I would expect hydropower installations like dams, etc. to take a tremendous amount of energy to get built before they could ever generate one KW of power without fossil fuels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we use more solar power, wind biomass and hydropower, will this decrease the use of fossil fuels? by bcnu</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/if-we-use-more-solar-power-wind-biomass-and-hydropower-will-this-decrease-the-use-of-fossil-fuels/comment-page-1/#comment-13664</link>
		<dc:creator>bcnu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wind and solar do NOTHING to reduce fossil fuels. 

They are so unreliable that they are almost completely useless for powering anything requiring a constant power source, such as a city. When the wind dies, or a cloud obscures the sun, you can&#039;t just &quot;fire up&quot; another fossil or nuclear power plant or spin up another turbine in your hydro dam. The existing plants need to operate at nearly 100 percent of the predicted load so they are constantly capable of picking up the slack when the heavily subsidized and economically flawed &quot;alternatives&quot; suddenly die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind and solar do NOTHING to reduce fossil fuels. </p>
<p>They are so unreliable that they are almost completely useless for powering anything requiring a constant power source, such as a city. When the wind dies, or a cloud obscures the sun, you can&#8217;t just &quot;fire up&quot; another fossil or nuclear power plant or spin up another turbine in your hydro dam. The existing plants need to operate at nearly 100 percent of the predicted load so they are constantly capable of picking up the slack when the heavily subsidized and economically flawed &quot;alternatives&quot; suddenly die.</p>
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		<title>Comment on If we use more solar power, wind biomass and hydropower, will this decrease the use of fossil fuels? by Ivan S</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/if-we-use-more-solar-power-wind-biomass-and-hydropower-will-this-decrease-the-use-of-fossil-fuels/comment-page-1/#comment-13665</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but then there is the cost factor. Will we want to pay for more costlier items because using those renewable energy is going to increase cost of production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but then there is the cost factor. Will we want to pay for more costlier items because using those renewable energy is going to increase cost of production.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by jeffmolly1</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13872</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffmolly1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@leamyvideo You can get the blades but NOT the hub,thats the problem.If you own a 3 blade windmax they won&#039;t let you get a 5 blade hub to upgrade.
jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leamyvideo You can get the blades but NOT the hub,thats the problem.If you own a 3 blade windmax they won&#8217;t let you get a 5 blade hub to upgrade.<br />
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by jeffmolly1</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13873</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffmolly1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TheDudeRulez09 Thanks dude,I await your donations,20s will be ok.
jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TheDudeRulez09 Thanks dude,I await your donations,20s will be ok.<br />
jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by jeffmolly1</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13874</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffmolly1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@econewpower The raptor blades you bought a year ago were not manufactured by me,since then they have changed to light grey with a different material.we have a wind turbine in Wyoming they have been on since sept of 2009.The rebel wind turbine has been running non stop up to 100 mph winds with no deterioration or breakage whatsoever.Heat from 100 degrees in the summer to 60 below zero in the winter.The new Raptor generation 3 blades far exceed the old ones in strength and speed.
jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@econewpower The raptor blades you bought a year ago were not manufactured by me,since then they have changed to light grey with a different material.we have a wind turbine in Wyoming they have been on since sept of 2009.The rebel wind turbine has been running non stop up to 100 mph winds with no deterioration or breakage whatsoever.Heat from 100 degrees in the summer to 60 below zero in the winter.The new Raptor generation 3 blades far exceed the old ones in strength and speed.<br />
jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by jeffmolly1</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13875</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffmolly1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Fearlessthinker the test under load is coming next. I will compare the 3 windmax blades to 5 raptor blades and see what happens.my intent was not to knock windmax blades but to help out those that have a chinese wind turbine with 3 blades that won&#039;t spin until you have a 15 mph or higher winds.
Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Fearlessthinker the test under load is coming next. I will compare the 3 windmax blades to 5 raptor blades and see what happens.my intent was not to knock windmax blades but to help out those that have a chinese wind turbine with 3 blades that won&#8217;t spin until you have a 15 mph or higher winds.<br />
Jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by TheDudeRulez09</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13876</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDudeRulez09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff your a GOD!</description>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by leamyvideo</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13877</link>
		<dc:creator>leamyvideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@econewpower You bought a set of how many windmax blades. Were they like the airfoil ones that come with it. I bought a set too but they were not like the airfoil one&#039;s I have on my 500 and 1000w wind max. I stand corrected if you did get those exact blades. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@econewpower You bought a set of how many windmax blades. Were they like the airfoil ones that come with it. I bought a set too but they were not like the airfoil one&#8217;s I have on my 500 and 1000w wind max. I stand corrected if you did get those exact blades. Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by Floridaprepper</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13878</link>
		<dc:creator>Floridaprepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 12:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job Jeff!</description>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by TheBillythekid2010</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13879</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBillythekid2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff, you&#039;ve upset someone. But thats ok in my book, I own a six, nine, and a eleven Blade sets and my oldest is over a year old and have not change strength at all and they are in U.V. light all this time, so great idea Jeff and in fact I&#039;m buying more soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff, you&#8217;ve upset someone. But thats ok in my book, I own a six, nine, and a eleven Blade sets and my oldest is over a year old and have not change strength at all and they are in U.V. light all this time, so great idea Jeff and in fact I&#8217;m buying more soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by Fearlessthinker</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13880</link>
		<dc:creator>Fearlessthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a test under load of the windmax blades vs. the raptor blades?  The data should show windspeed, RPM, and watts into a 12V battery bank.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a test under load of the windmax blades vs. the raptor blades?  The data should show windspeed, RPM, and watts into a 12V battery bank.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by econewpower</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13881</link>
		<dc:creator>econewpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@leamyvideo Larry, that&#039;s not an accurate statement. Last month I purchased a set of replacement blades for both of my Windmax turbines. The raptor blades are ok initially (I own a set of six blades), the problem is that after a year or so they deteriorate significantly and thus in my humble opinion are not a long term solution. It seems to be due to the material used in fabrication, maybe a different plastic is needed. This a good idea from Jeff as it opens more choices - that&#039;s good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leamyvideo Larry, that&#8217;s not an accurate statement. Last month I purchased a set of replacement blades for both of my Windmax turbines. The raptor blades are ok initially (I own a set of six blades), the problem is that after a year or so they deteriorate significantly and thus in my humble opinion are not a long term solution. It seems to be due to the material used in fabrication, maybe a different plastic is needed. This a good idea from Jeff as it opens more choices &#8211; that&#8217;s good!</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by leamyvideo</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13882</link>
		<dc:creator>leamyvideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jeffmolly1 You are a genius. What you have done will break down alot of doors regarding windmax because you can not buy thier blades seperatley. I think this is a great idea bro. I have the 5 blade units and have no complaints. I think adding your seven or nine blades and hub to their turbine will do a lot of justice regarding their 3 blade. Kepp up the great work buddy
Larry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jeffmolly1 You are a genius. What you have done will break down alot of doors regarding windmax because you can not buy thier blades seperatley. I think this is a great idea bro. I have the 5 blade units and have no complaints. I think adding your seven or nine blades and hub to their turbine will do a lot of justice regarding their 3 blade. Kepp up the great work buddy<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by jeffmolly1</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13883</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffmolly1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@leamyvideo 
I have had numerous requests for blades that would fit the windmax 3 blade wind turbines.I guess windmax won&#039;t sell the 3 blade people a five blade setup.you can also use 5 raptor generation 3 blades for the windmax. this new adaptor will fit several foreign wind turbines.
jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@leamyvideo<br />
I have had numerous requests for blades that would fit the windmax 3 blade wind turbines.I guess windmax won&#8217;t sell the 3 blade people a five blade setup.you can also use 5 raptor generation 3 blades for the windmax. this new adaptor will fit several foreign wind turbines.<br />
jeff</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by leamyvideo</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13884</link>
		<dc:creator>leamyvideo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff nice job on the new blade fit for the wind max.
Larry</description>
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Larry</p>
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		<title>Comment on FASTER BLADES FOR A WINDMAX WIND TURBINE GENERATOR by nuclearthreat545</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/wind-power-home/faster-blades-for-a-windmax-wind-turbine-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-13885</link>
		<dc:creator>nuclearthreat545</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 02:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sweet</description>
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		<title>Comment on A wind power mill at home ? by Yaacov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yaacov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a rule of thumb you need a land size of at least one acre to install the high wind turbine tower. In the city (or a suburban area) you may opt for a very small roof mounted generator and there are obstacles such as neighbors&#039; objection, noise coupling to your home, storms and required permits
http://www.solar-energy-for-home.com/home-wind-energy.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a rule of thumb you need a land size of at least one acre to install the high wind turbine tower. In the city (or a suburban area) you may opt for a very small roof mounted generator and there are obstacles such as neighbors&#8217; objection, noise coupling to your home, storms and required permits<br />
<a href="http://www.solar-energy-for-home.com/home-wind-energy.html">http://www.solar-energy-for-home.com/home-wind-energy.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A wind power mill at home ? by gmsigler25</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/a-wind-power-mill-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-13549</link>
		<dc:creator>gmsigler25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work for a company that used small wind generators from time to time.  They weren&#039;t very big and could be put on a portable tri-pod type thing, so yes...it&#039;s definitely do-able, but I&#039;m not sure at what cost.  This site might help http://www.skystreamenergy.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work for a company that used small wind generators from time to time.  They weren&#8217;t very big and could be put on a portable tri-pod type thing, so yes&#8230;it&#8217;s definitely do-able, but I&#8217;m not sure at what cost.  This site might help <a href="http://www.skystreamenergy.com/">http://www.skystreamenergy.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A wind power mill at home ? by f100_supersabre</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/a-wind-power-mill-at-home/comment-page-1/#comment-13550</link>
		<dc:creator>f100_supersabre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That depends on the size of the unit and the location.
Cost ALSO depends on size.

Run search for &quot;Wind Generators&quot;

(Available from 100 watts or less to several megawatt sizes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That depends on the size of the unit and the location.<br />
Cost ALSO depends on size.</p>
<p>Run search for &quot;Wind Generators&quot;</p>
<p>(Available from 100 watts or less to several megawatt sizes.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on A wind power mill at home ? by crazytim77</title>
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		<dc:creator>crazytim77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price will vary according to the size of the turbine, but range from $6,000 to $22,000 installed. You could install it yourself, and save some money.

If you are up for building the turbine this can drop the costs to as little as $200. The only real expense for a DIY build is the generator which can be a DC motor. A well positioned turbine can produce over $2000 worth of electricity a year, so it&#039;s well worth the effort.

It&#039;s not that difficult to mount a turbine. You need some steel piping to mount the turbine on and also some supporting ropes to make sure it doesn&#039;t blow down in strong winds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price will vary according to the size of the turbine, but range from $6,000 to $22,000 installed. You could install it yourself, and save some money.</p>
<p>If you are up for building the turbine this can drop the costs to as little as $200. The only real expense for a DIY build is the generator which can be a DC motor. A well positioned turbine can produce over $2000 worth of electricity a year, so it&#8217;s well worth the effort.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that difficult to mount a turbine. You need some steel piping to mount the turbine on and also some supporting ropes to make sure it doesn&#8217;t blow down in strong winds.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A wind power mill at home ? by Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes wind power for homes is a great idea, its not so difficult to install as long as you follow the direction in your package, in will cost less tahn $150, here is a site where i bought mine..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes wind power for homes is a great idea, its not so difficult to install as long as you follow the direction in your package, in will cost less tahn $150, here is a site where i bought mine..</p>
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		<title>Comment on A wind power mill at home ? by Emilytaylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emilytaylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to done (above) for the goog URL he forward, definatelya wind power network at home is a great idea to help being green and decrease in about 70% your energy bills. Go and check free courses on how to build your home windpower green &quot;machine&quot; go green , go http://www.windpowercost.org
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to done (above) for the goog URL he forward, definatelya wind power network at home is a great idea to help being green and decrease in about 70% your energy bills. Go and check free courses on how to build your home windpower green &quot;machine&quot; go green , go <a href="http://www.windpowercost.org">http://www.windpowercost.org</a><br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>Comment on Where does wind power take place? by georgerinnh</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgerinnh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mainly in wide open spaces.  Oceans and plains for example.

The largest wind farm in the United States is the Horse Hollow Wind Energy Center in north central Texas.  It&#039;s rated output is 735 megawatts, which is about the same amount as a small nuclear plant.

The relatively flat and featureless terrain of north Texas does not provide many obstacles (friction) for the wind, allowing it to reach higher speeds and be more constant.  This same effect is taken advantage of in the oceans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mainly in wide open spaces.  Oceans and plains for example.</p>
<p>The largest wind farm in the United States is the Horse Hollow Wind Energy Center in north central Texas.  It&#8217;s rated output is 735 megawatts, which is about the same amount as a small nuclear plant.</p>
<p>The relatively flat and featureless terrain of north Texas does not provide many obstacles (friction) for the wind, allowing it to reach higher speeds and be more constant.  This same effect is taken advantage of in the oceans.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In optimal conditions does a wind turbine collect anoff power to run the rotor at the same speed? by Al Pacino</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/in-optimal-conditions-does-a-wind-turbine-collect-anoff-power-to-run-the-rotor-at-the-same-speed/comment-page-1/#comment-13339</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Pacino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think by &#039;anoff&#039; you mean &#039;enough&#039;.

The power that is required to run the wind turbine at the same speed normally comes for the grid; (grid integrated wind turbines). You are refering in this case to the fixed speed wind turbines, where it&#039;s speed is governed by the synchronous speed of the AC frequency of the national grid. Normally this does not require much power without wind, because there is little drag and the rotation continues mainly by inertia; only little power is required to maintain this rotation against resistance. When there is wind, depending on wheather the turbine is direct drive (gearless) or with a gear, it is adjusted to give the optimal torque on the generator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think by &#8216;anoff&#8217; you mean &#8216;enough&#8217;.</p>
<p>The power that is required to run the wind turbine at the same speed normally comes for the grid; (grid integrated wind turbines). You are refering in this case to the fixed speed wind turbines, where it&#8217;s speed is governed by the synchronous speed of the AC frequency of the national grid. Normally this does not require much power without wind, because there is little drag and the rotation continues mainly by inertia; only little power is required to maintain this rotation against resistance. When there is wind, depending on wheather the turbine is direct drive (gearless) or with a gear, it is adjusted to give the optimal torque on the generator.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In optimal conditions does a wind turbine collect anoff power to run the rotor at the same speed? by billrussell42</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/in-optimal-conditions-does-a-wind-turbine-collect-anoff-power-to-run-the-rotor-at-the-same-speed/comment-page-1/#comment-13340</link>
		<dc:creator>billrussell42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;anoff&quot; ??

Are you asking if a wind turbine is ever operated as a motor when there is no wind?

I don&#039;t think so, what would be the reason to do that?

.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;anoff&quot; ??</p>
<p>Are you asking if a wind turbine is ever operated as a motor when there is no wind?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so, what would be the reason to do that?</p>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on wind power-good and bad? by cindy j</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindy j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not heard of the problems with birds.  I know commercial wind generators can be kinda noisy, but the smaller, home and garden generators work great.  There are some that are quieter than others (which I recommend).  I think as we become more self-sufficient, everyone and every ecological thing benefits.  But you have to live where the wind blows.  Individual wind generators might be hard for urban dwellers, but co-op appartment building generators might work if installed on the roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not heard of the problems with birds.  I know commercial wind generators can be kinda noisy, but the smaller, home and garden generators work great.  There are some that are quieter than others (which I recommend).  I think as we become more self-sufficient, everyone and every ecological thing benefits.  But you have to live where the wind blows.  Individual wind generators might be hard for urban dwellers, but co-op appartment building generators might work if installed on the roof.</p>
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		<title>Comment on wind power-good and bad? by Brett2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wind generators kill many many many birds. A few coastal species will be under threat of extinction if turbines on Englands coast are not removed.

They are noise and visual pollutants too. Hollands idea of building them at sea is the best idea I have personally seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind generators kill many many many birds. A few coastal species will be under threat of extinction if turbines on Englands coast are not removed.</p>
<p>They are noise and visual pollutants too. Hollands idea of building them at sea is the best idea I have personally seen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can you use an alternator from a car for wind power and how efficient would it be? by J.</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/can-you-use-an-alternator-from-a-car-for-wind-power-and-how-efficient-would-it-be/comment-page-1/#comment-13016</link>
		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can, and people have- but the typical automotive alternator has a number of internal losses and inefficiencies of components in the design that it needs to be spun faster than blade designs allow for direct drive for decent output in most cases.  So adding a chain and sprocket method or gearing to get speed multiplication for the alternator shaft needs to be added.

Old auto generators were used too- in fact http://www.lindsaybks.com carries a reprint of a 1945 LeJay manual where they have a number of plans using automobile generators and tips and tweeks to get them to produce well at lower wind speeds, even direct driven.  

Flat stator Axial Flux  AC mills have been popular because they are reasonably easy to fabricate and will produce useful amounts of power at low speed.  Also available through Lindsay are some books on home brewed power, Hugh Piggott&#039;s is probably most copied because it is a simple design.  Even a book pulished by the UN aimed at thrid world development agencies has one of these Axial Flux designs in it.  His homepage is here: http://scoraigwind.com/  His propeller plans in his books are a basic design that works well, and has a proven track record of reliability.

One thing- NEVER use plastic pipe for blades.  They break far too easy, ABS is too weak, and PVC will degrade exposed to sun light like it is.  When they break they travel great distance with great force behind them- they can kill people.  Unless your nearest neighbor is 4 miles away- just use the wood, or the commercially made blades.  If you try working with metal- fully understand what metal fatigue is before you start for the same reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can, and people have- but the typical automotive alternator has a number of internal losses and inefficiencies of components in the design that it needs to be spun faster than blade designs allow for direct drive for decent output in most cases.  So adding a chain and sprocket method or gearing to get speed multiplication for the alternator shaft needs to be added.</p>
<p>Old auto generators were used too- in fact <a href="http://www.lindsaybks.com">http://www.lindsaybks.com</a> carries a reprint of a 1945 LeJay manual where they have a number of plans using automobile generators and tips and tweeks to get them to produce well at lower wind speeds, even direct driven.  </p>
<p>Flat stator Axial Flux  AC mills have been popular because they are reasonably easy to fabricate and will produce useful amounts of power at low speed.  Also available through Lindsay are some books on home brewed power, Hugh Piggott&#8217;s is probably most copied because it is a simple design.  Even a book pulished by the UN aimed at thrid world development agencies has one of these Axial Flux designs in it.  His homepage is here: <a href="http://scoraigwind.com/">http://scoraigwind.com/</a>  His propeller plans in his books are a basic design that works well, and has a proven track record of reliability.</p>
<p>One thing- NEVER use plastic pipe for blades.  They break far too easy, ABS is too weak, and PVC will degrade exposed to sun light like it is.  When they break they travel great distance with great force behind them- they can kill people.  Unless your nearest neighbor is 4 miles away- just use the wood, or the commercially made blades.  If you try working with metal- fully understand what metal fatigue is before you start for the same reasons.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what power wind turbine would i need to power an average house. there is plenty of wind where i live? by AnswerMan</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/what-power-wind-turbine-would-i-need-to-power-an-average-house-there-is-plenty-of-wind-where-i-live/comment-page-1/#comment-12871</link>
		<dc:creator>AnswerMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem you will have powering a single house is the highly varying nature of the power demand.

At night, after everyone has gone to bed, the household demand is as low as a few 10s of watts - an alarm clock or two, the displays on a VCR and a microwave, perhaps a cell phone charger and a cordless phone base station.

Then the refrigerator will kick in and you have a very short-term peak load of over a kilowatt, as the motor starts, which then settles down to a couple hundred watts. But if it is a frost-free refrigerator, when it goes into defrost mode the heater may draw between 1/2 and 1 kW.

During the day you will switch on some lights, perhaps some electric cooking appliances, maybe a couple of air conditioners. You can easily have a demand of 5 kW or so, sustained for several minutes. If you have an electric stove, electric water heater, or electric dryer, you add between 3 and 10 kW to that load for each appliance.

So, it comes down to this: you add up the power of all the appliances you think you will ever want to run at the same time. You should add 25% to allow for non-unity power factor and to leave some excess capacity to start motors. That&#039;s your minimum wind turbine. If you have a house with electric heating appliances, it is likely to be a shockingly large number. (although if a lot of your demand is due to heating, then the 25% safety factor is too generous.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem you will have powering a single house is the highly varying nature of the power demand.</p>
<p>At night, after everyone has gone to bed, the household demand is as low as a few 10s of watts &#8211; an alarm clock or two, the displays on a VCR and a microwave, perhaps a cell phone charger and a cordless phone base station.</p>
<p>Then the refrigerator will kick in and you have a very short-term peak load of over a kilowatt, as the motor starts, which then settles down to a couple hundred watts. But if it is a frost-free refrigerator, when it goes into defrost mode the heater may draw between 1/2 and 1 kW.</p>
<p>During the day you will switch on some lights, perhaps some electric cooking appliances, maybe a couple of air conditioners. You can easily have a demand of 5 kW or so, sustained for several minutes. If you have an electric stove, electric water heater, or electric dryer, you add between 3 and 10 kW to that load for each appliance.</p>
<p>So, it comes down to this: you add up the power of all the appliances you think you will ever want to run at the same time. You should add 25% to allow for non-unity power factor and to leave some excess capacity to start motors. That&#8217;s your minimum wind turbine. If you have a house with electric heating appliances, it is likely to be a shockingly large number. (although if a lot of your demand is due to heating, then the 25% safety factor is too generous.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on what power wind turbine would i need to power an average house. there is plenty of wind where i live? by mike</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/what-power-wind-turbine-would-i-need-to-power-an-average-house-there-is-plenty-of-wind-where-i-live/comment-page-1/#comment-12870</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>showers use water. you mean pump?
you can&#039;t run heavy wattage appliances, 
no toaster,heater,cooker
read
http://store.solar-electric.com/wind.html
MIKE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>showers use water. you mean pump?<br />
you can&#8217;t run heavy wattage appliances,<br />
no toaster,heater,cooker<br />
read<br />
<a href="http://store.solar-electric.com/wind.html">http://store.solar-electric.com/wind.html</a><br />
MIKE</p>
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		<title>Comment on what power wind turbine would i need to power an average house. there is plenty of wind where i live? by Steffen</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/what-power-wind-turbine-would-i-need-to-power-an-average-house-there-is-plenty-of-wind-where-i-live/comment-page-1/#comment-12869</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the small kind of wind turbine. It powers the average house and cost around $9000 to $22000 per wind turbine. They are clean ,quiet, and dont interfere with the TV or Radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the small kind of wind turbine. It powers the average house and cost around $9000 to $22000 per wind turbine. They are clean ,quiet, and dont interfere with the TV or Radio.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what power wind turbine would i need to power an average house. there is plenty of wind where i live? by cattbarf</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/what-power-wind-turbine-would-i-need-to-power-an-average-house-there-is-plenty-of-wind-where-i-live/comment-page-1/#comment-12868</link>
		<dc:creator>cattbarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not cost-efficient to power ONE house with ONE wind turbine, since creating useful 3-cycle 220 V AC power involves considerable equipment .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not cost-efficient to power ONE house with ONE wind turbine, since creating useful 3-cycle 220 V AC power involves considerable equipment .</p>
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		<title>Comment on what power wind turbine would i need to power an average house. there is plenty of wind where i live? by Johneye</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/what-power-wind-turbine-would-i-need-to-power-an-average-house-there-is-plenty-of-wind-where-i-live/comment-page-1/#comment-12867</link>
		<dc:creator>Johneye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plenty is not an engineering term.</description>
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		<title>Comment on what power wind turbine would i need to power an average house. there is plenty of wind where i live? by Robert L</title>
		<link>http://www.buildwindgenerator.org/build-wind-power/what-power-wind-turbine-would-i-need-to-power-an-average-house-there-is-plenty-of-wind-where-i-live/comment-page-1/#comment-12866</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average person uses 4000 Kwh per year
which for 200 days of wind is 20 Kwh per day.
You would need 3 kw turbine to power the house.
Note: 3 kw turbine is the max rating not average.
ie. if the average is 1/3 or 1Kw you get 24kwh in 24 hrs.
See the sight:
http://www.kgelectric.co.za/wind_generators.htm

However,
There are economies of scale in wind turbines, i.e. larger machines are usually able to deliver electricity at a lower cost than smaller machines. The reason is that the cost of foundations, road building, electrical grid connection, plus a number of components in the turbine (the electronic control system etc.), are somewhat independent of the size of the machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average person uses 4000 Kwh per year<br />
which for 200 days of wind is 20 Kwh per day.<br />
You would need 3 kw turbine to power the house.<br />
Note: 3 kw turbine is the max rating not average.<br />
ie. if the average is 1/3 or 1Kw you get 24kwh in 24 hrs.<br />
See the sight:<br />
<a href="http://www.kgelectric.co.za/wind_generators.htm">http://www.kgelectric.co.za/wind_generators.htm</a></p>
<p>However,<br />
There are economies of scale in wind turbines, i.e. larger machines are usually able to deliver electricity at a lower cost than smaller machines. The reason is that the cost of foundations, road building, electrical grid connection, plus a number of components in the turbine (the electronic control system etc.), are somewhat independent of the size of the machine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does wind power literally power?!? by Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wind power can power many things. You can have your own windmill which can power just your home, garage, etc. Then there are those massive wind farms. The power from those usually goes into the power grid.The electricity is then used usually by people near the wind farm, like a nearby city. It&#039;s used for anything from lights to computers, to sewage pumps (&lt;-- ew). There are many possibilities that electricity can be used as. Pretty much anything that is electric that you use today can by powered by the electricity made by a windmill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wind power can power many things. You can have your own windmill which can power just your home, garage, etc. Then there are those massive wind farms. The power from those usually goes into the power grid.The electricity is then used usually by people near the wind farm, like a nearby city. It&#8217;s used for anything from lights to computers, to sewage pumps (&lt;&#8211; ew). There are many possibilities that electricity can be used as. Pretty much anything that is electric that you use today can by powered by the electricity made by a windmill.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does wind power literally power?!? by Lilman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wind power is turned into electrical power and wherever the wires go, so does the power. Anything using electricity is subject to getting the power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wind power is turned into electrical power and wherever the wires go, so does the power. Anything using electricity is subject to getting the power.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does wind power literally power?!? by TheCay1974</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheCay1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you mean wind mills they produce electricity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you mean wind mills they produce electricity!</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does wind power literally power?!? by KevinB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KevinB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually the wind turbine is generating electricity.
Once it has made the electricity, either on-grid or off-grid, the electicity can be used to power anything electricity usually powers.   Homes, offices, whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually the wind turbine is generating electricity.<br />
Once it has made the electricity, either on-grid or off-grid, the electicity can be used to power anything electricity usually powers.   Homes, offices, whatever.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does wind power literally power?!? by harrygarry99</title>
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		<dc:creator>harrygarry99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it generates electricity which goes into the grid and is used wherever electricity is used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it generates electricity which goes into the grid and is used wherever electricity is used.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What does wind power literally power?!? by Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power componies with wind turbine fields just dump that electricity straight into the grid and it goes out to homes and businesses with all the other electricity.

On our farm, we have it run straight into our house to power lights/heater/well/dishwasher/etc. Any electricity we don&#039;t use we sell to the local power company and the same thing happens, it gets sent out along the same lines the normal electricity follows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power componies with wind turbine fields just dump that electricity straight into the grid and it goes out to homes and businesses with all the other electricity.</p>
<p>On our farm, we have it run straight into our house to power lights/heater/well/dishwasher/etc. Any electricity we don&#8217;t use we sell to the local power company and the same thing happens, it gets sent out along the same lines the normal electricity follows.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How are wind turbines hooked up to the power grid? by Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very carefully. You probably want to talk to your electric provider to see if they allow this then ask them what systems they recommend. I would look for a package and not try to built it yourself.

Just the turbine itself will not work. In order for a generator to connect to the power grid directly There are things that have to match, the voltage, the frequency, and I think the power factor and something else I cant remember. If these things are not correct your system will go unstable. There are systems that can regulate this stuff for you however I don&#039;t know if there are any for singular homes yet because the technology is fairly new. 

Other things you may not have thought about:
Is your area consistently windy (and at a fairly consistent speed?)
Are you allowed to put this in your yard by home owners associations to city governments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very carefully. You probably want to talk to your electric provider to see if they allow this then ask them what systems they recommend. I would look for a package and not try to built it yourself.</p>
<p>Just the turbine itself will not work. In order for a generator to connect to the power grid directly There are things that have to match, the voltage, the frequency, and I think the power factor and something else I cant remember. If these things are not correct your system will go unstable. There are systems that can regulate this stuff for you however I don&#8217;t know if there are any for singular homes yet because the technology is fairly new. </p>
<p>Other things you may not have thought about:<br />
Is your area consistently windy (and at a fairly consistent speed?)<br />
Are you allowed to put this in your yard by home owners associations to city governments?</p>
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		<title>Comment on How many homes can a 20kw wind turbine power? by Mr. Un-couth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Un-couth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twenty kW is twenty kW it doesn`t matter if it comes from a conventional 60 cycle commercial power source, a 25 kW wrist watch battery with a 80% efficient DC to 60 cycle ac converter connected to it`s output terminals, or a 20 kW wind driven turbine generator.

One home would probably be a little bit too big of a load for the 20kW wind driven generator on a relatively still day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twenty kW is twenty kW it doesn`t matter if it comes from a conventional 60 cycle commercial power source, a 25 kW wrist watch battery with a 80% efficient DC to 60 cycle ac converter connected to it`s output terminals, or a 20 kW wind driven turbine generator.</p>
<p>One home would probably be a little bit too big of a load for the 20kW wind driven generator on a relatively still day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How many homes can a 20kw wind turbine power? by Ed W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One if the wind blows. I have a 15kw standby generator and I cannot put everything on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One if the wind blows. I have a 15kw standby generator and I cannot put everything on it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How many homes can a 20kw wind turbine power? by hobart_elf</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobart_elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all depends on the loading.

Perhaps 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all depends on the loading.</p>
<p>Perhaps 8.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How many homes can a 20kw wind turbine power? by Ecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A curly question.

Production of wind generator...
A wind generator has a threshold to start generating, like 12km/h.
It may generate 50% output at 18km/h and 100% output at 24km/h.
These figures depend on the design.

Wind availability...
In what is called a &quot;good/excellent location&quot; for wind, the penetration may be 30%. That means the total production is 30% of the full rating. That means 6.6kWh x 24h per day, averaged over a year. This is very dependent on the site, winds, time of year and the wind generator itself. Call that 160kWh/d.

Load per house...
The average load is a vague thing, perhaps something between 3 and 24kWh per day (or any other number snatched from the air). This depends very much on the community, the culture, the location and the time of year. It is also a statistical measure, not an indication of the peak power demand at particular times. For example, do the houses have air-conditioners, clothes driers and heaters. Does everyone switch these on at the same time each day. This is still a rate where the houses take some care with electricity use. Divide your electricity bill by the rate per KWh and the billing period in days to see how you compare for KWh/d.

At that rate, we could hope for 160kWh/d / 24kWh/d etc, so between 7 and 50 houses (on average over the year). This analysis gives no guarantee there will be enough power at any particular time. The excess power to demand at any particular time also needs to have a place to go - some sort of storage system. Batteries for even this modest power level would be huge, but also difficult to determine exactly how big without actually trying it out. For the feel of it, to store a day&#039;s good operation, perhaps say 160kWh/d. Let the battery be 240V, it would be 666Ah capacity. A typical car battery is 12V at 40Ah.

This power we are talking about is only useful when the houses are statistically averaged (they don&#039;t all switch their heaters on together). It should be seen as a fuel saver for the existing power system. How much fuel is saved depends on , the way electricity is used in the houses, and when the wind happens to generate electricity.

It works must better if the wind generator is connected to a grid where there are a lot of houses (many thousands) over a large area, say one or two states in the US. The connection uses a special inverter that can regenerate the energy from the wind generator at the correct phase and voltage to export power to the grid when required. This distribution over geographical area and a large number of houses evens out the load variations. Basically the wind generator exports power to the grid to supplement the power the grid gets from other sources. This is perhaps the best way to achieve a meaningful result, though if done on a grand scale the grid itself may have stability problems that come from the base load steam stations not being able to vary their output quickly. The bigger the variety and the geographical area the more likely that the system works, but individual lines in the network need to be considered too. Not simple.

If there is no grid, like on a small island, the next best thing is to continuously run diesel generators that are specialised in that they can run for extended periods with small loads when the wind is good, and instantly take over when it is not good. Once again the wind generator is a fuel saver, but less effective because the houses may all increase and decrease loads simultaneously. The diesel generators must be big enough to generate the full load at some times, and there may not be enough load to use all the wind generator output at other times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A curly question.</p>
<p>Production of wind generator&#8230;<br />
A wind generator has a threshold to start generating, like 12km/h.<br />
It may generate 50% output at 18km/h and 100% output at 24km/h.<br />
These figures depend on the design.</p>
<p>Wind availability&#8230;<br />
In what is called a &quot;good/excellent location&quot; for wind, the penetration may be 30%. That means the total production is 30% of the full rating. That means 6.6kWh x 24h per day, averaged over a year. This is very dependent on the site, winds, time of year and the wind generator itself. Call that 160kWh/d.</p>
<p>Load per house&#8230;<br />
The average load is a vague thing, perhaps something between 3 and 24kWh per day (or any other number snatched from the air). This depends very much on the community, the culture, the location and the time of year. It is also a statistical measure, not an indication of the peak power demand at particular times. For example, do the houses have air-conditioners, clothes driers and heaters. Does everyone switch these on at the same time each day. This is still a rate where the houses take some care with electricity use. Divide your electricity bill by the rate per KWh and the billing period in days to see how you compare for KWh/d.</p>
<p>At that rate, we could hope for 160kWh/d / 24kWh/d etc, so between 7 and 50 houses (on average over the year). This analysis gives no guarantee there will be enough power at any particular time. The excess power to demand at any particular time also needs to have a place to go &#8211; some sort of storage system. Batteries for even this modest power level would be huge, but also difficult to determine exactly how big without actually trying it out. For the feel of it, to store a day&#8217;s good operation, perhaps say 160kWh/d. Let the battery be 240V, it would be 666Ah capacity. A typical car battery is 12V at 40Ah.</p>
<p>This power we are talking about is only useful when the houses are statistically averaged (they don&#8217;t all switch their heaters on together). It should be seen as a fuel saver for the existing power system. How much fuel is saved depends on , the way electricity is used in the houses, and when the wind happens to generate electricity.</p>
<p>It works must better if the wind generator is connected to a grid where there are a lot of houses (many thousands) over a large area, say one or two states in the US. The connection uses a special inverter that can regenerate the energy from the wind generator at the correct phase and voltage to export power to the grid when required. This distribution over geographical area and a large number of houses evens out the load variations. Basically the wind generator exports power to the grid to supplement the power the grid gets from other sources. This is perhaps the best way to achieve a meaningful result, though if done on a grand scale the grid itself may have stability problems that come from the base load steam stations not being able to vary their output quickly. The bigger the variety and the geographical area the more likely that the system works, but individual lines in the network need to be considered too. Not simple.</p>
<p>If there is no grid, like on a small island, the next best thing is to continuously run diesel generators that are specialised in that they can run for extended periods with small loads when the wind is good, and instantly take over when it is not good. Once again the wind generator is a fuel saver, but less effective because the houses may all increase and decrease loads simultaneously. The diesel generators must be big enough to generate the full load at some times, and there may not be enough load to use all the wind generator output at other times.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did you know the USA leads in wind power? by Snuff McGruff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snuff McGruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windmills are ugly and wind power is a joke.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Did you know the USA leads in wind power? by The_Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprised.  We have one of the highest wind energy &quot;reserves&quot; in the world.  We are also the largest consumer of energy.  We should use more wind and solar (thermo) energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not surprised.  We have one of the highest wind energy &quot;reserves&quot; in the world.  We are also the largest consumer of energy.  We should use more wind and solar (thermo) energy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did you know the USA leads in wind power? by Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I didn&#039;t.  We just built some windmills on the Lake Erie shore and they looks pretty cool despite what Ted Kennedy thinks of them..</description>
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		<title>Comment on Did you know the USA leads in wind power? by bonsai</title>
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		<dc:creator>bonsai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are the best in environmental destruction too, with more low grad coal burning in inefficient power plants from the 1930&#039;s then all other nations combined. we make more garbage, burn more fossil fuel then all other 220 nations on earth combined. We need more energy per person then Countries with double the living standard like Switzerland or Luxembourg.
Just lowering our energy consumption by 20%, we could put of global warming by 100 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are the best in environmental destruction too, with more low grad coal burning in inefficient power plants from the 1930&#8242;s then all other nations combined. we make more garbage, burn more fossil fuel then all other 220 nations on earth combined. We need more energy per person then Countries with double the living standard like Switzerland or Luxembourg.<br />
Just lowering our energy consumption by 20%, we could put of global warming by 100 years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Did you know the USA leads in wind power? by RayN-here</title>
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		<dc:creator>RayN-here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t care about all the birds that are killed by these things do you? America number ONE bird killer</description>
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