Neither is sufficiently reliable to rely on as a source of power.
If a nuclear weapon goes off anywhere in the United States of America your life will be absolutely miserable no matter what you do.
I recommend that you take the the money and time and energy that you would have put into your fallout shelter project, and use that time, energy and money to make certain that the enemies of The United States of America, and in particular the Muslim Terrorists do not get their hands on Nuclear Materials and/or Nuclear Weapons in the first place.
you’re better off trying to tap into natural gas or geo-thermal pockets because the fallout will block out the sun and the wind turbines will have been destroyed
Dealing with Iran having nuclear capabilities is the responsibility of every world leader, not just Obama. To make the statement that Obama is in any way willing to allow Iran to destroy the world is the reason the anti-Obama wackos look so foolish.
Probably wind, because there will be hardly any UV rays that hit the panels.. Plus, the panels will be fithly with dirt and grime… Probably be blown away as well.
You’re going to have to set something up underground and then control it from the shelter, where it’ll retract up from out of the ground. Solar panels would be easier, but the above still holds true, less to none UV’s coming through for the first few weeks.
It would probably be safe to say that wind would do the trick. Moreover a wind generator would be blown away by the blast, and then sucked up again.
You see, so you’re going to have to install a tube in the ground where this wind generator can be retracted out. The gamma in the air will cause a pretty continuous breeze. And the further up in altitude we travel, the higher chances for a greater wind speed.
Geothermal energy would probably be your best bet. It would be able to power you for a few months, and then, you could retract your equipment above the ground and transfer over to wind and solar when your batteries have maintained a steady, sufficient reading. For batteries, I’d buy 300 to 500 batteries, and stuff them all in a room from floor to ceiling. So, digging out this room is vital, or else where would you store them? Sealing this room would probably be a good idea as well to keep the acidity and corrosion away from the family and friends.
When you have successfully metered all your batteries for a steady, sufficient load, you can stop the geothermal energy, and let the wind generator go until it stops. You’ll be on full mode solar.
Might I suggest you install a radioactive meter somewhere above the ground— You may want to make this retract as well. This will let you know whats out there and the level of such radiation is out there. Normally, anything over 8 is extremely bad. After several months, it’ll go down to around 4.4. Life can be sustained at this level, but there are risks for radiation. After about a year, it should be around 2.2 – 4.5 around ground zero. About 18 months following the blast, it still may remain around 1.0 – 2.0, but shortly thereafter, it should be fine.
You’ll want to dig as deep as possible, where the temperature remains constant. A 25 megaton nuke can take up 150 ft. of topsoil one way, and suck up another 180 ft. the other. The suck is more disasterous than the blast itself. So, 400 ft. would be a good place to start. That means a lot of wiring. You could do it!
Good luck with this activity. And the best part about it is having fun doing it! This would also be a great way to interact with the kids. They could sure learn a lot from you and this experience.
if you did some research, you’d realize that the "secret" facility in Iran was found out because Iran announced it, making the "secret" kind of moot. The facility in Qom has 3000 centrifuges, if they worked around the clock for one year, they could make 1 Hiroshima type bomb, that is if they worked for 1 year without stopping. Netanz has a facility that the UN knows about with over 50,000 centrifuges already. Plus, the U.S. knew about this "secret" facility in 2006, yet Obama decided only to bring it up at the G20 meeting.
Iran has no nukes, they won’t get any nukes. There is more of a threat from another false flag attack carried out by U.S./Israel than there is from Iran.
Even if a nuclear blast would not get into the current of wind to affect you in your specific part of the globe, you may not have any electricity or electric circuit capability because some loony nation will also probably send up a Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse which will do a good job of destroying most unprotected transistor circuitry.
Solar power and wind turbines both need electronic circuitry to work transmit their power source into electricity you can use.
It’s going to be winter soon and global warming doesn’t make even a blip on our Michigan thermometers, so here’s to heaven! We’re coming home!
The saber rattling we hwear in the distance is the gin up to an attack. Life will never ever be the same if we do so. Just like it has never been the same since 9-11.
I have mine set up to not use any electrical power however I do have portable solar, wind and manually powered energy systems. Everything including the air purification system and well are manually powered.
The better advice would be to power your house, ’cause if Iran gets it’s way and attacks Israel, Iran and the straits where oil gets through will be a wasteland. You’ll have to power your car with alcohol.
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Neither is sufficiently reliable to rely on as a source of power.
If a nuclear weapon goes off anywhere in the United States of America your life will be absolutely miserable no matter what you do.
I recommend that you take the the money and time and energy that you would have put into your fallout shelter project, and use that time, energy and money to make certain that the enemies of The United States of America, and in particular the Muslim Terrorists do not get their hands on Nuclear Materials and/or Nuclear Weapons in the first place.
I would rather freshen up my wet scum sour
The best shelter is one for your mind.
Shelter from Fascism will be required very soon in the U.S. so get your mask on.
geothermal energy, to my mind.
Tin foil is the only shelter needed…
I’d use both. The more the better. If one fails, you still have the other!
No, because the Power that these weapons really have is so great that we can barely imagine it, no one would be left a-live for long.
Israel is not going to allow Iran to possess nuclear weapons, in a worst case scenario the US and Europe will back an Israeli strike if talks fail.
The West doesn’t need to take any military action, the US will likely provide the intelligence and possibly provide the weapons needed to do the job.
Why do you spell Obama 0bama?
you’re better off trying to tap into natural gas or geo-thermal pockets because the fallout will block out the sun and the wind turbines will have been destroyed
Dealing with Iran having nuclear capabilities is the responsibility of every world leader, not just Obama. To make the statement that Obama is in any way willing to allow Iran to destroy the world is the reason the anti-Obama wackos look so foolish.
Probably wind, because there will be hardly any UV rays that hit the panels.. Plus, the panels will be fithly with dirt and grime… Probably be blown away as well.
You’re going to have to set something up underground and then control it from the shelter, where it’ll retract up from out of the ground. Solar panels would be easier, but the above still holds true, less to none UV’s coming through for the first few weeks.
It would probably be safe to say that wind would do the trick. Moreover a wind generator would be blown away by the blast, and then sucked up again.
You see, so you’re going to have to install a tube in the ground where this wind generator can be retracted out. The gamma in the air will cause a pretty continuous breeze. And the further up in altitude we travel, the higher chances for a greater wind speed.
Geothermal energy would probably be your best bet. It would be able to power you for a few months, and then, you could retract your equipment above the ground and transfer over to wind and solar when your batteries have maintained a steady, sufficient reading. For batteries, I’d buy 300 to 500 batteries, and stuff them all in a room from floor to ceiling. So, digging out this room is vital, or else where would you store them? Sealing this room would probably be a good idea as well to keep the acidity and corrosion away from the family and friends.
When you have successfully metered all your batteries for a steady, sufficient load, you can stop the geothermal energy, and let the wind generator go until it stops. You’ll be on full mode solar.
Might I suggest you install a radioactive meter somewhere above the ground— You may want to make this retract as well. This will let you know whats out there and the level of such radiation is out there. Normally, anything over 8 is extremely bad. After several months, it’ll go down to around 4.4. Life can be sustained at this level, but there are risks for radiation. After about a year, it should be around 2.2 – 4.5 around ground zero. About 18 months following the blast, it still may remain around 1.0 – 2.0, but shortly thereafter, it should be fine.
You’ll want to dig as deep as possible, where the temperature remains constant. A 25 megaton nuke can take up 150 ft. of topsoil one way, and suck up another 180 ft. the other. The suck is more disasterous than the blast itself. So, 400 ft. would be a good place to start. That means a lot of wiring. You could do it!
Good luck with this activity. And the best part about it is having fun doing it! This would also be a great way to interact with the kids. They could sure learn a lot from you and this experience.
–Rob USMC
if you did some research, you’d realize that the "secret" facility in Iran was found out because Iran announced it, making the "secret" kind of moot. The facility in Qom has 3000 centrifuges, if they worked around the clock for one year, they could make 1 Hiroshima type bomb, that is if they worked for 1 year without stopping. Netanz has a facility that the UN knows about with over 50,000 centrifuges already. Plus, the U.S. knew about this "secret" facility in 2006, yet Obama decided only to bring it up at the G20 meeting.
Iran has no nukes, they won’t get any nukes. There is more of a threat from another false flag attack carried out by U.S./Israel than there is from Iran.
Even if a nuclear blast would not get into the current of wind to affect you in your specific part of the globe, you may not have any electricity or electric circuit capability because some loony nation will also probably send up a Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse which will do a good job of destroying most unprotected transistor circuitry.
Solar power and wind turbines both need electronic circuitry to work transmit their power source into electricity you can use.
It’s going to be winter soon and global warming doesn’t make even a blip on our Michigan thermometers, so here’s to heaven! We’re coming home!
The saber rattling we hwear in the distance is the gin up to an attack. Life will never ever be the same if we do so. Just like it has never been the same since 9-11.
I have mine set up to not use any electrical power however I do have portable solar, wind and manually powered energy systems. Everything including the air purification system and well are manually powered.
wow I want to go hang out with Rob!
nuclear energy is actually very efficient.
I think, there’s no need for wind or solar power to Obama, ther’s enough petrole enrgy in Irak, Koweit and Saoudia, right now
these aren’t important issues,iran and nuclear weapons- common the olympics for chicago is to pay back your buddies..WTF
The better advice would be to power your house, ’cause if Iran gets it’s way and attacks Israel, Iran and the straits where oil gets through will be a wasteland. You’ll have to power your car with alcohol.